09 – Moving Past Fear to Creative Invincibility with Josh Pais [Podcast]

Show Summary

In this episode of the Make Creativity Pay podcast, I talk to actor, director, writer, and teacher Josh Pais aboJoshPaisut moving past fears and anxiety to get your best work out into the world. [ I did this interview a while back, but it’s one of my favorites and I hope you’ll agree!]

For years, Josh has been helping actors, performers, speakers, entrepreneurs, and creatives of all kinds to get past self-sabotaging and unproductive thoughts – and to start to see real results from their efforts.

Josh has been working regularly in acting for nearly 30 years. He is best known for his roles in Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, A Beautiful Mind, and The Station Agent.

He is also the founder of  the Committed Impulse training program. CI was initially developed as a cutting edge approach solely for actors who want a way of working that generates steady employment. But it soon grew into a “secret weapon” for leading entrepreneurs, speakers, and other creative professionals around the world.

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Show Notes

In this episode you’ll learn:

  • 4 simple steps you can take to get your work into the world quickly despite fear, insecurity, nervousness, and anxiety.
  • How to become creatively invincible (seriously!)
  • How to radically increase your results when pitching a new idea, selling your work, coaching others, asking for a raise, or performing under pressure.
  • What to do when your brain tells you, “I suck!”

[3:04] A different way of addressing the self-doubting thoughts and second guessing we do.

[5:21] How thinking about atoms – the building blocks of the universe – can make a difference when you put your ass on the line.

[7:15] How – and why – to stop dramatizing your emotions.

[9:13] What emotions really are (and it’s not what you think.)

[11:21] What to do when the thoughts in your head tell you “I suck!”

[12:28] The sneaky trick your mind plays on you that sabotages your efforts.

[13:59] Your weapon for pulling yourself out of a mental spiral.

[15:15] How Committed Impulse helps people get more work in the real world.

[15:54] How to stay present — and why it matters to your creativity.

[20:16] Why spending time trying to have better thoughts is a waste of time.

[22:05] Leanne’s real-life success with being present while performing.

[26:03] The four simple points to being present.

Links and Resources

Music Featured on the Podcast

“Dreaming of One Day” (c) 2011, written and performed by Leanne Regalla

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About Leanne Regalla

Leanne is a writer and musician and the founder of Make Creativity Pay. She's on a mission to help creatives of all types to pursue their art without going broke, living in their cars, or starving to death.


  1. Great post! I suffer from anxiety and fear a lot. However, it does not stop me from showing my work and hustling it to sell. I only recently (last 5-6 months) started taking ym art seriously. I have sold quite a few pieces but not enough to live off of. My pricing can also be eradic as I’m still not sure (as an unknown) what to really charge for certain sizes etc. I’m unemployed and at the age of 36 don’t really want to work for anyone else anymore..I know if I do I will hit a really serious depression that I’m working for someone else and not myself. So far I’ve been surviving by hustling odd jobs like making a couple of websites for local businesses and marketing them…But all I want to do is my art.. Not sure where I’m going with this but kudos on this interview.

    • Thanks so much, Alex – glad you liked it. There’s not a thing wrong with hustling on side jobs while your art takes off – as a matter of fact, it’s a smart thing to do. You can’t do your best work if you can’t pay those bills. You are your own best sponsor, and you do have to be willing to invest in yourself if you want other people to do the same. Just be grateful you’ve got the opportunity and full speed ahead! 😉

  2. Cami says:

    Hi Leanne,

    Thank you for sharing this! I can relate to this a lot because I’m a designer and I have lots of anxiety. I started doing something about it lately, like whenever I feel I’m afraid, , I tell myself I’ve got to do it more. It’s like my signal that I’m going to grow if I face this. After a few weeks doing this I find myself very aggressive. Anyway, this still didn’t remove my thoughts about my designs. If I still feel people aren’t going to like it, I change it to something they previously liked. What happens is, the designs are all plain and boring and never innovative. I’m also insecure with my drawing skills, I think it’s only going to change through a lot of practice. Thanks for your time!,

    • Hi Cami,

      Good for you for facing your fears! You are right that it will get easier (although never really go away.)

      Have you ever read, “The War of Art” by Steven Pressfield? I highly recommend it, it’s an easy read and will help you move past those anxieties. If you get it, let me know what you think.

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